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[samatethecookie]

If anyone would like to give me a fandom that you'd like me to share three of my unpopular (or "likely to piss off someone somewhere") opinions about, feel free to comment.

I've done this meme before, but I never talked about the fandoms I wanted to talk about. The last time, it was just Disney and Teen Titans. HIT ME UP, PLEASE?

(If you don't know my fandoms, just look through my userpics. If there's something you think I'd be familiar with but isn't in my userpics or interests, go ahead and ask!)

Comments

[escalove.livejournal.com]

Give Me Sailor Moon or Avatar. That would do well.

[samatethecookie.livejournal.com]

I'm tempted to do both! I'll do Sailor Moon, though. If nobody asks for Avatar, I'll do that in response to your comment.

1. Pegasus/Helios and Chibiusa's relationship creeps me out, especially in the anime. I think it's because he's a horse most of the time and she falls in love with him/likes him romantically before she realizes that Pegasus is actually human. It squicks me out because...
A) HE IS A GODDAMN HORSE.
B) She is way too young to consider boys; she's, what, eight or something like that? I know she isn't even in junior high.
And C) HE IS A HORSE AKHLA;GAKGA.
It doesn't bother me as much in the manga's storyline, though.

2. I'm not sure if this is a popular fandom opinion or not, but I don't like the canon confirmation that Mamoru is essentially "Sailor Earth", because he's the prince of the earth or some shit. It's like, I get it, the sailor scouts were princesses or at least connected with a royal kingdom so it makes sense for him, but I felt like a huge opportunity was wasted. I really wanted to see a Sailor Earth and it should've been Naru rather than Mamoru by himself.

3. I do like Mamoru, but I hate how glorified his character is within the fandom. He isn't a perfect man nor is he the perfect boyfriend. He has flaws, many flaws. He can also be a douchebag, despite his good intentions. and I'd really appreciate it if the fandom didn't gloss over his mistakes; for me, it makes him all the more endearing, but I would never call him perfect or pretend that he is something much bigger than he actually is. :\ Also, fics where Usagi is in need of saving and Mamoru is overpowered? It has to stop. Seriously. IT IS NOT LIKE THIS AT ALL IN CANON. Stop it, people.

[escalove.livejournal.com]

Yes, in the anime it is creepy as hell.

I liked it in the manga, because him actually being the senshi of the Earth came with actual additional power, and I felt he was a bit depowered in the anime, so again, made sense in terms of the manga. In the anime it was just, what?

The fandom either hates him ridiculously or over loves him, and the fic is awful. Like they overpower him and this accompanied by DEPOWERING Usagi and it is like, ugh. NO

[samatethecookie.livejournal.com]

OH THANK GOD, I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST ME. D: Yeah, Pegasus/Helios is a fucking creeper who likes Chibiusa when she is younger and OH GOD HE CALLS HER "MY LITTLE GIRL" IN THE ENGLISH DUB AND IT PUSHES EVERY BUTTON I'VE GOT.

I don't ... think he did anything in the anime? Except guard some gold crystal or some shit? And turn into a horse and RUN AWAAAAAAY? This is bad, I JUST watched the anime season and I already forgot. DX */will wiki it later.* He was definitely depowered in the anime, though. I liked him a lot better in the manga.

Most fandom I see ridiculously loves him, when I looked into it last. I've seen a lot of Mamoru hate that makes me sad, too. :/ He's not great, but he's not this horrible guy either. I hate those extremes.

[samatethecookie.livejournal.com]

BAH. I did it anyway. XD;

1. I'm ... not really into boy slash unless it's for the lulz. At all. Zuko/Sokka is the only thing I will take seriously these days, and that's because their friendship reminds me of a relationship a friend and I write together for our characters. The rest, I can do without.

2. I wish I can beat this into the fandom's brain: it is possible to ship Azula with a male character and make it believable. Believe it or not, Azula is not a canon lesbian. Lesbian!Azula is fun to write, but it's not part of the fandom. Can't a girl be scary good at being a villain and conquer a city by herself without automatically being a dyke?

3. People really need to shut the fuck up about canon pairings, or why Bryke should've done something this way, or why this side of the fandom is worst than the other. It's a Nickelodeon cartoon. It's a smart cartoon, but in the end, that's all it is and it shouldn't be taken that seriously. Arguing over every little detail about it is draining and isn't fun.

OR. The real 3 on my list.

3. I don't like that the finale is viewed as this imperfect ending to the series and that if you complain about one minor thing about it, you just didn't get it. For me, I loved the final battle, Azula's insanity/falling apart, Aang not killing Ozai and being a pacifist, but there were still parts of the finale that bugged me after awhile.

[escalove.livejournal.com]

I actually don't think people writing Azula as a lesbian or whatever is done because she is the villain, and the thing about the Psychotic evil Lesbians is that they are evil because they are lesbian and not the other way around. At least for me thinking of Azula as gay isn't connected to her being the bad guy. it is for me that the only people Azula has any kind of chemistry with in the show are Mai and Ty Lee. So for me I don't find it believable for her to be paired with any of the male character in the show, and I am not interesting any canon character/OC, so Azula!het leaves me cold.

I don't necessarily find her to be an out and out lesbian, but I don't think she is straight either, but I don't see anything between her and any male character at all, so I think there is more case for her to be secretly full on gay then any other character in the series, but I don't know, I hang with people who don't harp on the fact that she is gay, but I also generally hang with people who don't interact with Avatar fandom as a whole, because we think the fandom is idiotic and stupid.

Zuko/Sokka is probably the only one that I really like, though I could buy Zuko/Aang. ( i wish I could convince the fandom that if there was a triangle between Zuko, Aang, and Katara that it was Aang in the middle not Katara). But I mostly find boyslash boring

OH WORD ON NUMBER 3.

With regards to the finale, I am going to say i am the opposite of you in that it was the hate for the finale that pretty much drove me out (then their stupidity over the movie). But I am very much of a holistic person, so for me the finale as a whole was a perfect ending (but what I mean by perfect is different from what other people consider to be perfect), in that it hit me in this perfect emotional spot. Did I think there wee details that were off? Yes, but other then one thing concerning Azula and the Order of White Lotus, it brought all the characters that I loved to an awesome place, so I thought it was a perfect ending in this holistic way.

That said the stuff that bugged me, wasn't in general the stuff that bugged fandom, and I thought the stuff they harped about was stupid. So yeah. There you go.

[samatethecookie.livejournal.com]

Most of the time when I saw comments about how Azula HAS to be gay, it's mostly because of how much of a villain she was, which ... yeah, I don't even know. Her friendship with the girls is one of the main factors, though. Either way, I'm all right with Azula being gay or bisexual (I do like Azula/Ty Lee), but I also enjoy her with male characters from time to time. The fandom assumption that she should only be paired off with girls is really annoying. :/ (And yes, fandom is stupid. Extremely stupid.)

The boy slash, yeah, you're right. It's boring. I like boy slash from time to time, but I get bored with it if it isn't done right. In Avatar, it's practically nonexistent for me. Like, Zuko/Sokka I enjoy. Roku and Sozin is another one I don't mind, but I prefer thinking of them as friends. All in all, the fic has to be REALLY convincing for me. If the guys are just reduced to yaoi stereotypes, I lose interest fast.

Oh no, it wasn't so much the emotion of the finale that bothered me, that was great! I love that everyone got a happy ending. It was some of the details of the finale that started to bug me, or how the story ended for some of the characters. Little things, like how I preferred for Zuko to find out about his mother instead of having that left in the dark.

I didn't like it when people bitched about the finale in a tone that it was THE WORST FINALE TO A SHOW EVER though, because it's stupid. Especially when they complained about Ozai's fate. Aang agonized over it. He didn't not kill Ozai because he was a wimp, and I hate it when people say he was. He didn't do it because he genuinely couldn't live with himself if he killed Ozai, and he felt like there was another option available to him, somewhere. He found a way to stop Ozai without having to murder him, and to me, that speaks of his strength more than just settling to kill him. It was also a bigger punishment for Ozai, who was so used to being powerful and controlling others (such as his children).

[escalove.livejournal.com]

I have never seen that, but I have seen people be extremely butt hurt over their Azula/guy pairing not be as popular as say Ty Lee and Azula, and then whine and whine about how Azula isn't gay and whatever and TOTALLY LIKES THE MEN. And it is like dude, shut up.

But then I don't read Azula pairings in general, like with Azula, she is my least favorite of the Dangerous Ladies, and outside of Ty Lee/Azula, I have very little interest in her by herself.

I do have boyslash pairings that I like a WHOLE LOT, but not in Avatar. Avatar, I am very much women focused.

The only things that got me in the finale was I felt the thing with Azula slid a bit too much "give a woman power, and she goes crazy" complete with the hair cutting. That bothered me, and the lack of women in The Order of White Lotus.

I am not a detail oriented person which is why things like that don't bug me as much, which I think makes me odd in fandom, because a lot of people seem to be detail oriented.

[shidoikarji26.livejournal.com]

Let's try : Bleach & Princess Tutu. You've covered Avatar. And talking about Teen Titans agian....

Bleach!

[samatethecookie.livejournal.com]

1. It's not that great of a series. It started off wonderfully, with Ichigo helping innocent souls and fighting bad guys when they attacked the innocent, then it went in an entirely different direction and turned into Dragon Ball Z with Soul Reapers - are that's what they call themselves? I don't even know anymore - instead of Saiyans. Every time I even try to read it anymore, it's nothing but battles and characters I don't care about. I'm getting the impression that the writer/artist is bored with the series, but continues working on it because it brings the money. (Also, I hated how minor characters that were originally important to the series disappeared once they weren't useful anymore.)

2. I'm not interested in the canon pairings. The only one that I'm holding out for is Ishida/Orihime, but considering how obsessed Orihime is with Ichigo, I doubt it'll ever happen. (I go back and fourth on Ulquiorra/Orihima quite a bit. One minute, I hate them. Another moment later, I kinda sorta have a guilty pleasure with them. I'm so conflicted. DX)

3. Tatsuki/Orihime OTP. You know it's canon.

Just ... honestly, I can't think of others, because I really don't like this series anymore and I don't have an opinion on it other than "WTF HAPPENED WITH YOU". :/

Princess Tutu!

[samatethecookie.livejournal.com]

1. The lack of Mytho/Rue love in the fandom makes me sad, for it is my favorite pairing. Like, I was ecstatic when they were canon rather than Fakir/Ahiru or Mytho/Ahiru.

2. I don't like stories or fanart where Ahiru is turned back into this beautiful human girl who lives happily ever after with Fakir. I liked it better when she decided being a duck isn't so bad, as long as she gets to save their world and bring a smile to Mytho's face once again. The ending was fine just the way it was, at least to me.

3. I'll admit it: I sorta shipped Fakir/Mytho at the beginning of the anime.